Won Last Time Out – How Important Is It Really?
There was a discussion taking place in our members forum recently about how far back in a horses history a win is still an important factor and, with that in mind, I thought that I would take a look at how important a row of wins are in betting. Is have the last race as a winner just as important as having the last two races as a winner and is that as important as have the last four races as winners.
And, of course, are these runners profitable to bet.
To do this I’ve taken data for all of 2013, which gives us 110,118 runners.
Won | Runners | Winners | SR | Profit | ROI | PIV |
Last Race | 10297 | 1874 | 18% | -1770 | -17% | 0.90 |
Last 2 Races | 1627 | 350 | 22% | -266 | -16% | 0.88 |
Last 3 Races | 289 | 66 | 23% | -87 | -30% | 0.82 |
Last 4 Races | 71 | 20 | 28% | -29 | -41% | 0.81 |
As you can see from the table above, the strike rate significantly improves for every win a horse has had in it’s last four races. It goes from 18% for horses that have won their last race to 28% for horses that have won all their last four races.
But…
Also notice how the ROI significantly drops as well. We start at -17% for horses who’ve won their last race, going to -41% for horses that have won all their last four races.
This isn’t unexpected because this is the most obvious form that there is, and it shows us that betting on these horses is generally not an advisable thing to do as they’re long-term very bad bets.
If we want to do anything with this then we’re going to need to only look at the horses last race, so let’s look at how the last races finish position pans out across other positions.
Finish Position | Runners | Winners | SR | Profit | ROI | PIV |
1 | 10297 | 1874 | 18% | -1770 | -17% | 0.90 |
2 | 10353 | 1747 | 17% | -2189 | -21% | 0.85 |
3 | 10090 | 1396 | 14% | -1786 | -18% | 0.89 |
4 | 9615 | 1122 | 12% | -1851 | -19% | 0.89 |
Broken down by the last finish position of runners we can see that this is not going to be offering us any advantage. The strike rate decreases and we get no benefits on the ROI or the PIV (Pool Impact Value).
What we’re doing is disproving a large amount of systems that are available which tell you to start by looking for a horses who’ve won their last two or three races. This information on it’s own offers absolutely no edge and will lose you money.
Why?
Because it’s very easily available to everyone betting on the races. In fact, it’s the first place that most punters start which means that it’s been accounted for in the market.
However, before we draw a conclusion I will look once more at how the last finish positions perform when we combine them with the horses being favourite in the race.
Finish Position | Runners | Winners | SR | Profit | ROI | PIV |
1 | 2868 | 1012 | 35% | -139 | -5% | 0.95 |
2 | 2692 | 903 | 34% | -267 | -10% | 0.91 |
3 | 1611 | 525 | 33% | -78 | -5% | 0.96 |
4 | 1059 | 328 | 31% | -28 | -3% | 0.94 |
Now we’re starting to make some progress. Horses that finished 4th last time out but are favourites this time only lose 3% of their stake to SP, but they still win 31% of their races.
They’re still not losing more races than expected, the PIV figure, but we’re starting to get something that we may be able to work with as a start point.
In fact, it’s possible that this may be break-even, or even just profitable, to Betfair SP!
Finish Position | Runners | Winners | SR | Profit | ROI | PIV |
1 | 2868 | 1012 | 35% | 0 | 0% | 1.03 |
2 | 2693 | 903 | 34% | -156 | -6% | 0.99 |
3 | 1612 | 526 | 33% | -18 | -1% | 1.04 |
4 | 1058 | 327 | 31% | 21 | 2% | 1.02 |
I’ve now changed the odds we’re using to Betfair SP and we can see that this makes a big difference. Now the horses that finished in fourth place last time out and are now favourites actually make a small profit of 2%!
Those who won last time out and are favourites are break even.
Now, I don’t suggest that you go and start betting on these selections, and bear in mind that you need to be getting the best odds available in order to make them break-even or slightly profitable.
But… you can use this information to kickstart your own analysis for a strategy!
Thank you for another excellent races analysis.
Forgive me for asking, do you collect Betfair SP yourself, or there is some historic data available. I use historic SP’s but not of BF (you can see it here: http://www.123dogs.co.uk/stats.php).
Thanks again and Marry Xmas.
Thank you Altin. I do collect Betfair SP myself. You can download Betfair SP’s from https://promo.betfair.com/betfairsp/
Ah, but what about laying the nag that won the last two !?
Ah well laying is another possibility 😉
Hi Michael
Thank you for the Christmas present, looking forward to using it over the Christmas period. Your the best blog on the internet and the most generous too. I am enjoying the smartsigger articles and recommend them to one and all, oh and have a great Christmas
Thank you very much Richard. Have a great Christmas.
Hi Michael
Thanks for the stats . Can I ask you where do you get data to make analizes?
I also liked your article last monday on betfan, which is very simillar to this one
Thanks Lu, we maintain our own racing database.
I would question your initial data for 2013. Horses winning the last 4 is bets-130, wins-48, S/R-36.92%, profit to BSP- -£20.04. All UK & IRE races from 1/1/13 to 22/12/13. All previous wins in UK & IRE, no overseas data. Check it out on HRB.
Hi Chris, thanks for your comment. Our data is provided by the Racing Post and Betfair, as I don’t know who provides HRB data, the structure it forms who how they interrogate the information I have no way of looking into why there is this difference, it may be due to the difference in handling between seasons which has given them slightly more. The above data is based on horses performance within the same season. However we do daily integrity checks on all our data and are confident in its accuracy.
If I am to understand that the sequence of wins must all be from the same season then HRB go bets-49, wins-15, S/R-30.61%, profit to BSP- -£12.95, where all 4 time winners have runat least 4 times that season. I would say that both sources of data are correct but are being interpreted in different ways which is always the case with any set of stats.
Thanks for the reply Chris. I am sure both sources are correct and it’s the difference in the interpretation of the data. Have a great Christmas.